tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post2269665263741327148..comments2024-03-25T17:49:41.408-07:00Comments on Salem Breakfast on Bikes: Planning Commission likely to Delete Walking Path at Golf Course RedevelopmentSalem Breakfast on Bikeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-16283596961133434642015-08-06T08:41:44.305-07:002015-08-06T08:41:44.305-07:00I agree. The developer is driven purely by econom...I agree. The developer is driven purely by economics. If you showed him a design that cost the same, had the same number of parking spaces and units, and was more pedestrian friendly, he or she would do it. But, they spend even less time and money on design than they do construction (in relative terms).<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454018177008925205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-55625118716977524502015-08-05T22:47:42.654-07:002015-08-05T22:47:42.654-07:00The problem isn't the path it's the whole ...The problem isn't the path it's the whole design. I absolutely hate these pos style apartment complexes with parking lots. This could be redesigned to look and function like a traditional apartment development with a street grid and on-street parking. But we consistently see these pods that will become run-down ghettos in 20 years. But the developer and builders will be long gone.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-25915907356394737142015-08-05T13:51:55.833-07:002015-08-05T13:51:55.833-07:00Thanks Breakfast on Bikes for bringing items like ...Thanks Breakfast on Bikes for bringing items like this to our attention. It is probably best to delete this path requirement in this location. But, it's very sad to hear that we are removing pathways in our neighborhoods due to crime and/or fear of crime. Walling ourselves in and shutting ourselves off to "outsiders" only creates an illusion of security. Hopefully we can work to find ways to create open, well-lit corridors in our neighborhoods that are safe and family friendly. Easier said than done, I know.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454018177008925205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-15748120144644990552015-08-05T09:38:58.771-07:002015-08-05T09:38:58.771-07:00Be afraid of the narrow dark path!!! And be afrai...Be afraid of the narrow dark path!!! And be afraid of outsiders passing by your residence!!!Jeff Schumacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320652216233151117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-17443097468925824762015-08-04T14:14:09.117-07:002015-08-04T14:14:09.117-07:00Whenever possible I prefer a grid-like development...Whenever possible I prefer a grid-like development where streets all go though and you have no cul de sac. That said, paths to provide connectivity generally do not live up to their intended purpose in that they provide access, but are often so narrow and lack visibility that they become paths for crime. The advantage of having connectivity is outweighed by the fact that these paths are generally not lit, are narrow and have places for people to hide and jump out at people, and are not easily policed.<br /><br />In fact pathways are so bad that in many places neighbors eventually try to remove or close them. I wish that this were not the case because they can provide for much better walking and bike routes. I have been involved as a NA chair in working with neighbors to remove several paths/walkways in my east Salem area due to fires, rapes, thefts, vandalism, beatings, and escape routes for theives. <br /><br />This apartment complex will be much safer if outsiders are not allowed to go directly through the area as well.<br /><br />The walkway along the street provides for eyes both by neighbors, passerby and police. It will be lit and will be much safer even though it might take a minute or two longer to reach the main arterials.<br />Susann Kaltwassernoreply@blogger.com