tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post6567113670472692079..comments2024-03-25T17:49:41.408-07:00Comments on Salem Breakfast on Bikes: Places for Bikes Network Analysis Shows Salem in a Bad PlaceSalem Breakfast on Bikeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-57396032179806449912017-06-08T17:09:33.267-07:002017-06-08T17:09:33.267-07:00It's not like what you say is completely wrong...It's not like what you say is completely wrong, but you may be underestimating the significance of these problematic factors:<br /><br />1) the core of downtown proper, with many destinations for employment and errands, is a black hole with lots of traffic and busy streets<br />2) the neighborhood streets you referenced are intersected often by very busy streets, which for many are effective barriers and constitute gaps in the network. (For example, a favorite route is to work north-south along a 21st Street alignment between Mill St SE and Madison NE. At Market, Center, and State you have to make a jog in addition to the crossing, and these can be stressful. These should not be underestimated as barriers.)<br />3) the assessment is for the whole of a city, not just choice sections of it. this is one reason why Eugene does not score highly; outside its streetcar grid, it has areas much more difficult for biking<br />4) the outer areas of Salem lack the concentration of destinations easy to reach - walkscore is a helpful proxy in this regard<br /><br />If you zoom in on <a href="https://bna.peopleforbikes.org/#/places/8e23ac86-a8c7-4146-b260-9638a960ec68/" rel="nofollow">the Salem detail map</a>, you'll see they accounted for the streetcar grid as mostly "low stress," but look at the red lines intersecting it.<br /><br />At the same time, again, this is a provisional draft assessment, and you may be right that Salem's streetcar grid should be weighted more highly and raise Salem's total score.<br /><br />Definitely this first scoring is not a "final answer" and it will be interesting to see new iterations and refinements.Salem Breakfast on Bikeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-8963852897610525912017-06-08T12:23:59.516-07:002017-06-08T12:23:59.516-07:00I don't really put much stock in this. Neighb...I don't really put much stock in this. Neighborhood streets connect most places in the central part of Salem and are very low stress to ride on. And if you know the streets you can make it very far south, north and east on low stress roads, looking at a map will help with this, I'm not as familiar with west Salem. Just because a street doesn't have a sharrow(which I think are useless) or a bike lane doesn't mean it isn't part of the biking network.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com