tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post4072631600434753495..comments2024-03-25T17:49:41.408-07:00Comments on Salem Breakfast on Bikes: Yes, Let's Remember Peppermint Flat! Salem Main Street Group Proposes Alley NamesSalem Breakfast on Bikeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-42336812663996303012019-05-15T18:50:19.089-07:002019-05-15T18:50:19.089-07:00Here's more on the proposal at the HLC this mo...Here's <a href="https://breakfastonbikes.blogspot.com/2019/05/hlc-should-ask-for-more-time-and-more-public-conversation-on-alley-names-historic-landmarks-commission-salem-main-street-association.html" rel="nofollow">more on the proposal</a> at the HLC this month.Salem Breakfast on Bikeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-72141724571418966132019-04-20T09:06:47.846-07:002019-04-20T09:06:47.846-07:00The names of Oregon poets is fine idea!
But I am ...The names of Oregon poets is fine idea!<br /><br />But I am hopeful for something more intensely local, that the project will focus on the city of Salem itself and less on any metonymy of Salem as Capital or stand-in for the whole State and its government.<br /><br />Are any of the Laureates from Salem or lived in Salem during their writing careers?<br /><br />If we recognized people, rather than historic place names or nearby art, we should consider a project to recognize important Salemites who aren't as well known as they should be.<br /><br />People like Obed and Charlotte Dickenson! How about Dickenson Alley?<br /><br />Our erasure of Chinatown was awful, and commemorating it in the nearest alley might be good also. (This might be #5 or #7.) We show the photo of Sung Lee in front of his laundry all the time (the image is even scanned twice, <a href="http://photos.salemhistory.net/cdm/ref/collection/max/id/672" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://photos.salemhistory.net/cdm/ref/collection/specialcol/id/2191" rel="nofollow">here</a>), and maybe we should do more to commemorate him with more detail and depth. Or perhaps there is a better candidate.<br /><br />It seems like naming the alleys is a meritorious project, but one that needs more time to develop and mature into something with broad support and compelling names people will actually use.Salem Breakfast on Bikeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-42805781648454476012019-04-18T11:08:59.104-07:002019-04-18T11:08:59.104-07:00I have been thinking about this and have come up w...I have been thinking about this and have come up with a different idea. Why not name the alleys after Oregon Poets Laureate? We have had nine Oregon Poets Laureate to date. Each block of an alley could be named after a different poet laureate and their poetry could be painted on the walls of the alley along with other appropriate artwork. Just affixing a name to an alley doesn't really get us much. Alleys that celebrate Oregon poets and poetry would be a real tourist attraction! It would draw people to visit the alleys and linger and read the poetry. How about that idea?Jim Scheppkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04077003905171156283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-40807303715952960702019-04-18T07:12:44.086-07:002019-04-18T07:12:44.086-07:00Re: "sorry none makes sense to me..."
W...Re: "sorry none makes sense to me..."<br /><br />What does that mean to you? Peppermint Flat has the same kind of reality that Badger Corner has. The Bell Tower is very similar. What is it about these that do not make sense?<br /><br />If you want to advance "Goose Neck Alley," you should explain why it is better than "Electric Alley," which with it would be competing. And maybe it is better, since it's not clear the way was ever called "Electric Alley."<br /><br />But in the context of the historical focus, Wisteria, Salmon, and even the Goose, all stem from more recent changes to the alleys, and are less historical in that way.<br /><br />At the same time, Wisteria is proposed for #4, instead of Spirited, which seems weak; and Salmon for #6, which apparently has no candidate. In the absence of more historically apt names, these might be strong candidates, since as you point out they link to real physical characteristics visible now, and by which people might orient themselves.<br /><br />But since you had advocated for Badger Corner, it is a little odd to hear you dismissing names that have some basis in older usage. There are problems with the slate that the Main Street group proposes, but the idea of reviving historic names seems like a good one.Salem Breakfast on Bikeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-36587769439849427762019-04-18T01:14:45.306-07:002019-04-18T01:14:45.306-07:00Apparently some people already have informal names...Apparently some people already have informal names for some of the alleys downtown. Someone posted on the CAN-DO page these suggestions: <br />"Wisteria Alley (where there is wisteria growing over the alley); Salmon Alley (because there is a piece of art that includes a salmon); Goose Neck Alley (because there is a mural of a goose)......"<br /><br />I liked the person's reasoning, so I am promoting the idea of finding a local historical or physical connection on the City Council Facebook page. <br /><br />You suggested background on a few, but sorry none makes sense to me, so I hope others have some good suggestions before it is all decided.Susann Kaltwassernoreply@blogger.com