tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post8853653235777751217..comments2024-03-25T17:49:41.408-07:00Comments on Salem Breakfast on Bikes: Strip Development on South Commercial: Does a New Beer Business Say Anything about Change?Salem Breakfast on Bikeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-11525073524965235202013-08-20T17:07:37.954-07:002013-08-20T17:07:37.954-07:00CB2 has info and a picture on the weathers develop...CB2 has info and a picture on the weathers development, and like Curt (comment 1) said, it shows nice landscaping, street frontage, and parking in back - <br /><br />http://www.cbtwoarchitects.com/#!/projects/in_progress/_2825commercialAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-71794481855572806262013-08-01T12:17:42.977-07:002013-08-01T12:17:42.977-07:00Thanks for the Panera info!
As for Englewood-Cour...Thanks for the Panera info!<br /><br />As for Englewood-Court-Chemeketa, indeed, wouldn't a family-friendly neighborhood pub be great! All the close-in, walkable neighborhoods should have one. It'll be interesting to see where Salem Ale Works and Vagabond Brewing go in. Maybe they'll choose something convenient to an underserved neighborhood!Salem Breakfast on Bikeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-54644011141697051632013-07-31T19:03:36.332-07:002013-07-31T19:03:36.332-07:00The SJ says Panera:
"Panera Bread plans to o...The SJ says Panera:<br /><br />"<i>Panera Bread plans to open a second Salem area location in a new building planned for the former Weather’s Music Corp. site on 2825 Commercial St. SE....<br /><br />In December, a Panera Bread store opened at 6110 Keizer Station Blvd in Keizer. The Panera Bread on Commercial St. SE. will be a company-owned store, Rushing said. Like the Panera Bread in Keizer, the new location will include a drive-through window.<br /><br />Panera Bread officials liked the spot along Commercial St. SE because of its proximity to downtown Salem, Rushing said. Developers are looking for another retail tenant to occupy the remaining space in building planned for the Weather’s site.<br /><br />Panera Bread operates 1,708 company-owned and franchise-operated bakery-cafes in 44 states and in Ontario, Canada. The stores operate under the Panera Bread, Saint Louis Bread Co., and Paradise Bakery & Café names.</i>"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-15226224951222996462013-07-23T07:40:46.687-07:002013-07-23T07:40:46.687-07:00The Englewood-Court-Chemeketa neighborhoods are de...The Englewood-Court-Chemeketa neighborhoods are desperately lacking a nice pub. It's one of the most walkable/bikeable areas of Salem. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-13271003977839723442013-07-23T07:37:33.904-07:002013-07-23T07:37:33.904-07:00One of the more established and walkable neighborh...One of the more established and walkable neighborhoods that is desperately lacking a nice pub is Englewood/Court/Chemeketa. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-35358396710672769382013-07-22T22:31:11.046-07:002013-07-22T22:31:11.046-07:00@Curt Glad to hear the Weather's plan looks ok...@Curt Glad to hear the Weather's plan looks ok! And thanks for the info on 30ft of frontage. The sidewalk on Madrona, btw, craps out at the pump station - there should be a foot bridge across the creek at about Douglas Avenue! That would make for much more attractive biking and walking connections to Gilgamesh. Sorry to hear about the lot pavement plan...<br /><br />@DD Coffee shacks is a good comparison and brings to mind the Cupcakes thing. It may not be a business model that persists the way the pub or brewery has persisted - especially since pubs, as you point out, can also conduct a growler business on the side. <br /><br />As for bike racks, it seemed remarkable that permitting didn't require them at construction or at tenant improvements for the new business. But yeah, probably not so important for the growler business. And thanks for the f/stop info!<br /><br />@Jim Have you biked to Thompsons? It's not impossible, but it is on the section of Liberty between Browning and Commercial sans bike lanes. But it is walkable, and definitely serves a neighborhood in addition to being a larger draw.Salem Breakfast on Bikeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15618055627843335993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-86998209419705534712013-07-22T21:26:03.771-07:002013-07-22T21:26:03.771-07:00You ask if Salem's zoning allows the swap with...You ask if Salem's zoning allows the swap with parking in back. IIRC the code now requires at least 30 ft. of building frontage facing the street. Maybe that explains the "sideways" orientation of some newer developments like Vista Place. <br /><br />Gilgamesh is a pretty bikable destination. The route has bike lanes the whole way. The patio and lawn are beautiful with live music and outdoor movies in the summer. No bike racks though. I'm personally not a fan of their food or the beer but I try and support them anyway. According to their latest FB post they are bulldozing some trees and landscaping for more parking. Sigh...Curtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-21801509477041919492013-07-22T19:34:50.040-07:002013-07-22T19:34:50.040-07:00I think growler fill stations mimic the peak of th...I think growler fill stations mimic the peak of the coffee boom in the mid-2000s with ubiquitous espresso stands on every corner. <br /><br />As the article on NewSchoolBeer.com states, availability was never really a problem in the Northwest and the stations mostly fill a single need: beer to go. I don't really see this as a draw for people on bikes (as anyone who has taken a six-pack on a mountain bike trip will attest, the contents won't stay carbonated for long.)<br /><br />Also, you left out one of Salem's better pub examples: f/Stop Fitzgerald's. <br /><br />Located in a moderately bikeable location (more so than Thompsons I'd say) within an established neighborhood. There are usually a few bikes locked up to the railing in front or around the outside seating area. While they will fill your growler they succeed more on the neighborhood pub feel where you stop and enjoy time with fellow revelers.d. davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17777891853158545220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-7137604927372181452013-07-22T18:06:38.663-07:002013-07-22T18:06:38.663-07:00B2 sucks. I won't go there. And I haven't ...B2 sucks. I won't go there. And I haven't gone to Gilgamesh since they moved out of downtown to the burbs. If you want to drink beer you still can't beat the outdoor picnic tables at Thompson's in the summertime. And the happy hour prices for food are great. Yes, the service is slow, but who cares. It's the best place in town to down a few pitchers in our glorious Oregon summers.Jim Scheppkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04077003905171156283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5666195730630249633.post-82056194200386449022013-07-22T13:31:51.130-07:002013-07-22T13:31:51.130-07:00I have a hardcopy of the proposal for the Weather&...I have a hardcopy of the proposal for the Weather's site. It looks nice. 75 ft of frontage, parking in back, with outdoor seating, bioswales, nice landscaping and bike parking. There is a drive thru proposed, but other than that, its a step in the right directionCurtnoreply@blogger.com