|A Possible City Hall and Police Station Configuration|
JANUARY 7 TUESDAY 6.30 TO 8.30 P.M. NEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION (at First Nazarene Church) Gene Pfeifer presentationI'm still not buying the claim that "Salem Community Vision has shown that an off site location saves $33 million."
JANUARY 8 WEDNESDAY 6.30 TO 8.30 P.M. SCAN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION (at South Salem High School ) Gene Pfeifer presentation
JANUARY 9 THURSDAY 7.00 TO 8.30 P.M. SESNA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION (at Wesleyan Church community center on Mill St at 17th.) Gene Pfeifer presentation
JANUARY 14 TUESDAY 10.00 A.M. TO 12.00 SEMCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION (at Paradise Mobile Home Park, Turner Rd.) Gene Pfeifer presentation
JANUARY 21 TUESDAY NOON TO 1.00 P.M. SOUTH SALEM ROTARY (at Salem Golf Club) Geoffrey James presentation
|Two proposals, side by side|
City alternative using car lot on left
Salem Community Vision SWAG on right
A critic might reasonably say, "Well, the City has inflated its numbers."
If that's true, why don't critics dig in and show exactly how the City inflated those numbers! Show your work! Geez, why is this debate such a struggle? If the City is wrong, it shouldn't be that difficult to make a strong case they are talking out of their own nether regions.
Over at Hinessight there's a longer discussion of a reply to several questions posed here. On most of them even if we might disagree on details, there's probably a center where reasonable people can disagree, where compromise is possible and even likely, and it is probably not very useful stay on those topics. Besides we've talked them to death here for the moment.
A commenter on another post also pointed out a piece on Portland's Emergency Coordination Center. Some - or perhaps even many - of the siting decision points there might be very relevant here. Has the City, for example, addressed the soil type and probability of liquefaction at the Civic Center site?
The critics' preferred option seems to be to explore possibilities on the empty lot on Liberty - the "SWAT Lot," where police store their military equipment - across the street from City Hall. It will be interesting to watch this concept mature and to see what emerges from it. On the surface it's a reasonable idea. And, in turn, it will be interesting to see whether the City deepens, modifies, or otherwise changes course on its own analysis of non-Civic-Center sites.
Other topics of possible interest...
NEN meets Tuesday the 7th at 6:30pm in the Salem First Church of the Nazarene, 1550 Market Street NE.
Draft meeting minutes from December indicate a no-show by the attorney for discussion of the Ice Cream plant on State Street. That conversation will likely continue.
Morningside meets Wednesday the 8th at 6:30 p.m. in the Pringle Creek Community Painters Hall, 3911 Village Center Drive SE.
The draft minutes contain an interesting bit about the possibility of a new park at Fairview!
Sam Hall with Sustainable Fairview has been discussing with the City the possibility of a community park in the horseshoe of the former Fairview Training Center. A community park would provide some sports fields and possibly use one or two of the existing buildings. These discussions are at a very early stage.SCAN
SCAN meets Wednesday the 8th at 6:30 p.m. in the South Salem High School Library, 1910 Church St SE.
In the draft minutes is a note that the Hospital didn't get any proposals for Howard Hall. Hopefully this will not be a prelude to demolition.
SESNA meets Thursday the 9th at 7:00 p.m. in the Capital Park Wesleyan Church, 410 19th St SE.
Cobbling notes from both the NEN and SENSA draft minutes: Apparently there exist 5% (conceptual) draft plans for a five-lane cross-section on McGilchrist. This would take the current two-lane + unimproved shoulder profile and transform it to sidewalks, bike lanes, two through lanes, and a center turn lane. That's a lot! Because of all the industrial trucks and stuff, it's easy to see why a center turn lane would be useful - but two through-lanes in each direction??? That seems like overkill. Something to research. Apparently there's also a concept for a stop light on 12th at the intersection of 12th and McGilchrist.
Did you see anything else on the agendas that piqued your interest?