In Section 20.c of the Q & A they write (and Category 5 is most hazardous, Category 1 the least) that
- The Preferred Alternative east side bridge landing is primarily Category 3; the western bridge approach is primarily Category 4, transitioning to Category 2 with some Category 3.
- The current bridge locations, east side, are primarily Category 5, transitioning to Categories 4 and 3. On the west side, the bridge landings are primarily on Category 3.
Section 20.b and 20.c |
The full map, from the Geological Resources Technical Report Addendum, Sept 2016 |
Maybe downtown isn't quite the "low risk" we earlier thought (via N3B, adapted from chapt 3.18 of the DEIS) |
But it does not seem like a stretch to say that the SRC is still in a high risk area, and that reinforcing the current bridges still is a better bet - not a certainty, but is a better probability - than building a new bridge at the current Preferred Alternative's location.
If you were placing a sports bet - think about that big football game next week - which would you choose?
Would you bet on the Preferred Alternative? Or would you bet on reinforcing the existing bridges? Betting on the SRC here seems like it is easily the longer-shot and that the odds on the current crossing locations are better.
The "Findings" in the Geological Resources Technical Report Addendum from Sept 2016 should not inspire confidence. It is a tissue of weasel words and hardly constitutes an actual finding. Clearly they are concerned and warning about difficulties discovered during construction, and have written a very evasive and "CYA" conclusion. Even in the final bullet, which presumes "proper geotechnical investigations...proper engineering design" and "mitigation measures," they still can't bring themselves to use a positive verb of certainty or confidence, and hide behind "could." There's a lot of risk and uncertainty hiding in plain sight.
"Could" does so much work here. Section 5.3 on Findings, from Geological Resources Technical Report Addendum, Sept 2016 |
Section 9.b in Q & A asserts 40% contingency is plenty |
ODOT's recent history of cost overruns on big projects via BikePortland and Joe Cortright |
There is no reason to think a 40% contingency would be adequate here. There is every reason to think 40% is way too small. Again, do you bet 40% is enough, or do bet a much larger contingency would be necessary?
No matter how tightly SRC advocates vet a cost estimate with unit pricing, and in the materials for the Work Session there is a giant spreadsheet for your consideration, the framework itself for estimating is broken and misleading. It is by design structured to underestimate costs by a very large margin. It even admits that "the planning level estimate does not specifically site-specific factors, such as contaminated soils, archeological considerations, geological conditions, or geotechnical variations..." The estimate is a SWAG, and there is no evidence to suggest a 40% contingency sufficient to cover for it.
And look! Here's a fresh and local example, just a few months old. This fall the Oregon Transportation Commission had to double the budget for the I-5 Woodburn to Salem paving project. Not all of the doubling is cost escalation; some of it is moving budget from one phase to another, if I recall right. Nevertheless, this is just routine maintenance, not major new construction, and they still are going over budget. At least a third of it is unambiguous "increased roadway construction costs." Here's the summary from SKATS:
Big projects, measured in tens of millions, at ODOT often come in over budget. Very big projects of hundreds of millions never come in near budget.
Even if you think the Preferred Alternative is necessary, there is no reason to think the cost estimates are accurate. On the contrary, there is every reason to think the current estimate wildly underbudgets the likely actual cost of the Preferred Alternative at this site.
Between the long extent of unstable Category 4 soils and the wild underestimate for the Preferred Alternative, there are strong reasons to doubt the wisdom of the SRC as it is currently framed in the Preferred Alternative.
Section 20.a and b: There are no direct answers here! |
4 comments:
May I respectfully recommend that before you go on any more about this, that perhaps you get an informed opinion from a geological engineer or a bridge engineer. FWIW, I know the design engineer responsible for the vastly overpriced Minto Island bridge has recently retired, so he would likely be objective.
(You're kinda just trolling, you know?)
If you read Section 5.3 on "Findings" from the 2016 technical addendum cited above, you'd see there was plenty of opportunity for a more positive assessment of risk and certainty from experts. But it's full of weaselly equivocation. The authors and experts they relied on totally evaded a direct statement.
We are asked to evaluate the DEIS, which is supposed to be a full accounting and analysis of the project, and to evaluate this Q & A as it was published. Supplemental assessment, multiple rounds of clarification, and the regressing loop that implies, should not be necessary. The published docs should contain enough information so that non-experts, like those on Council, can make an independent judgement. But gaps, omissions, and elisions in the documents warrant the reading offered here. ODOT's terrible record on large projects supports this reading. Research on megaprojects worldwide suggests skepticism is warranted, also. Many different strands of evidence suggest this is a likely reading.
You are welcome to share this post with your retired OBEC friend, and if he wishes to comment on and contest the points here he is welcome to do so. He should be willing to sign his comment as expert opinion, however. OBEC still might hope for contracts from the City, and even retired your friend may not be as independent as you think. Still, if a bridge expert wanted to weigh in, he might have useful contributions. Heck, he might even have so much to say that his comment would deserve to be guest post, and have post space all to himself!
Thanks.
Hinessight has a post on the gravel quarry and excavation on the west side. Apparently the soil depths and elevations used in the cost estimate are from 2009, and do not reflect about a decade's worth of gravel removal, accelerated in recent years.
With the Rose Quarter - I-5 project in the news this week at the OTC, it is interesting that that project shows signs of being wildly underestimated.
https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2019/12/20/the-cost-of-expanding-i-5-at-the-rose-quarter-project-rises-250-million-to-as-much-as-795-million/
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